Damian Chapman, Kate Doyle, and TJ McLeish

#NewMacy hybrid studio

This studio was a workshop during which participants explored new modes of constructing conversation. Our (adaptable) goal was to provide participants with vocabularies and processes of prototyping—experimenting, improvising, and playing with expressive forms as means of interaction, observation, and feedback. Participants journeyed toward a destination that was determined only by their continuous adaptation of traces marked in sound, gesture, and image. We proposed that, by prototyping new modes of conversation, participants would become aware of the experience of navigating “wicked challenges” (Rittel 1972; Sweeting 2018)—thus allowing a greater variety of identities and ideas to emerge.

KEYWORDS: pandemics, wicked challenges, cybernetics, second-order cybernetics, systemic change, ontological security, conversation, ontogenetic resilience, recursive feedback.

#NewMacy ACT II Studios—Redefining Stability

At RSD11, six #NewMacy Studios created opportunities to engage with interdisciplinary approaches to systemic design through conversations for action.


Pille Bunnell, Carlos Castellanos, Damian Chapman, Kate Doyle, Xiao Zoe Fang, Tim Gasperak, Mikal Giancola, Michael Lieber, TJ McLeish, Paul Pangaro, Eve Pinsker, Larry Richards, Eryk Salvaggio, Fred Steier, Mark Sullivan, Claudia Westermann, and Daniel Wolk


Posted September 2022

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